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Trends in Japan is featuring interviews
with notable foreign personalities in Japan. Our current interviewee is
Swiss conductor Charles Dutoit, who serves as principal conductor and
music director of the NHK Symphony Orchestra. In addition, he is the artistic
director of the Pacific Music Festival, held every summer in Sapporo.
CHARLES DUTOIT:
Defending Culture Against Information
October 28, 2002
"I'm a great admirer of Japanese culture, and
I like so many things about Japanese behavior, the manners, the elegance.
It's a visual society; eating is more visual, and everything has to be
beautiful. A bunch of flowers - everything is aesthetic. And all
that, I like. But it is very clear that every country is going to have
a hard time keeping such a marvelous [cultural] background and adjusting
to the world." Charles Dutoit, the Swiss-born maestro who is arguably
one of the most-traveled conductors in the world, brings a global and
historical perspective to Japan, a country he has come to know intimately
over the past three decades.
Dutoit first visited Japan in 1970, the year of the Osaka World Expo.
"People didn't speak any [foreign] language here, and they were not
at all interested in the rest of the world. They were traumatized by the
activity of the [military] expansion of the country. So it took an event
like the World Expo for the country to become a little more relaxed and
open to the rest of the world."
The Japanese at the time were still insular and inward looking, Dutoit
says. "We felt very isolated, very interested but very isolated,"
he recalls. "Now I see that the younger generation, little by little,
is becoming more interested in the world and becoming citizens of the
world. But it wasn't the case before. It was probably part of the Japanese
way of thinking, of not committing anything to the rest of the world.
People were like this - cramped. So I'm very happy to see that things
are changing, little by little."
Changing with the Times
While praising its culture and hoping Japan will maintain its aesthetic
values, Dutoit also feels a need for change in its society. "There
is a certain stiffness in Japanese traditions," he says. "Japan
is hardly a country for entrepreneurship, as opposed to America or other
countries. Here, a company has meetings all the time; many people talk,
and then the result of all this talk will eventually become a decision."
Such prolonged consensus building can slow things down, including the
economy, says Dutoit. "The [social] apparatus is so heavy there's
no flexibility."
That rigid group mentality dates back to the authoritarian educational
system of the Meiji era, says Dutoit, drawing on an extensive knowledge
of history gained through his desire to understand how Japan - in a mere
60 years - became involved in wars against China and Russia, followed
by World Wars I and II.
The indirect manner of Japanese communication poses another obstacle in
adapting to a changing world, he says. "If you have a problem with
someone, it's hard to express this problem face to face because that's
not the way [things work]. You must go around and make people try to understand
- it's an indirect way of doing things. And then you never know whether
it's been understood or decided. The Chinese and Koreans don't have that
problem. They are much more direct in their contact. It's not that one
is better than the other, but we are talking about the differences between
all these things, and I think in a way it's easier for them to cope with
the West and the rest of the world than it is for the Japanese."
English as Lingua Franca
One enormous change in the world today is the rise of English as the lingua
franca. "You have to adjust. And the ones who don't speak English
today are lost; they cannot travel, their children go on the Internet
and they dont understand 98% of the content," says Dutoit,
adding that even the linguistically sensitive French have taken to publishing
important scientific papers in English.
Dutoit, who has visited "127 countries so far," has a keen interest
in the languages of the world. "There are about 6,000 languages spoken
in the world. But every day, one or two are dying because there are fewer
and fewer people speaking these languages. And it's a tragedy. Is it good
or not? I don't know. It's a shame, but the world is what it is. What
can we do? It's the influence of television, of computerized society,
or information. Information today is more important than culture,"
he says regretfully.
"There is an enormous gap between culture and information. 'Culture'
is a way of thinking. It's a frame of mind - a way of thinking, a way
of concentrating on certain problems. 'Information' is CNN Headline
News. Many people know a lot, but in fact they know less and less
because they don't think. And I'm fighting to keep these values [alive]
in younger people. It's not enough to know a little bit of everything.
It's important to know more about a few things."
Information Versus Culture
"There are so many great young musicians - but talk to them,
they know so little. It's amazing," says Dutoit, who faults teachers
for driving their students to practice instead of broadening the minds
of young talent. "I think education has lost a certain richness,
a certain trunk, a certain root, a certain wealth."
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And in broadening one's horizon, there is much to be gained from first-hand
experience. Dutoit fondly recounts his first trip to South America, which
took 18 days by ship each way. "That year, for 36 days we were on
a boat - that's 10 percent of the year on this boat, discovering the distance
between Europe and South America when you go from one country to the next
in Africa. You leave Senegal, and for six days you cross the South Atlantic.
And on the morning of the seventh day you see the palm trees, and this
is the coast of Brazil. I tell you, I'm still trembling of emotion just
remembering when I saw that and I discovered South America.
"That's what I call information versus culture. It's all in the process
and the approach, and it's impossible to change that. You say that television
is a dangerous thing - it is true. This is a fantastic tool, but you have
to know how to use it. But you can't be against it. So it's up to us -
our choices and what we want to do with our kids, with the young people
- to give them the fruit of our experience and try to guide them and to
help them, at least to interest them in a different way than just going
with 500 channels of television."
Charles Dutoit
Born in Lausanne, Switzerland. Studied conducting in Switzerland, Italy,
and the United States. Has conducted orchestras in Europe, North and South
America, and Asia. Became principal conductor of the NHK Symphony Orchestra
in 1996 and music director in 1998. Began work in 2000 as the artistic
director of the Pacific Music Festival, an annual gathering in Sapporo
aimed at fostering young musicians.
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